Escaping the productivity trap, silencing the inner nihilist, and finding awe in the most ordinary places.

Lili Taylor is an award-winning movie, television, and theater actor. In the birding world, Lili is a board member of the National Audubon Society, the American Birding Association, and the New York City Bird Alliance.

In this episode we talk about:

Why humans are hardwired to connect with nature
What it means to "pay attention"
The role of listening and investigation
Antidotes to hopelessness
How to overcome obstacles in your meditation practice
Practical nature tips for city dwellers
The liberating concept of "autotelic" activities

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Turning to Birds
Turning to Birds on Substack
A Pocket Guide to Pigeon Watching
The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping

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