20 Mar 2026
40m

How Marketing Psychology + AI Will Boost Your Results Faster and Easier with Bas Wouters, Founder of the Online Influence Institute | Ep. 402

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The Marketing Millennials

The podcast explores the intersection of psychology and AI in marketing, focusing on how understanding decision-making processes can improve conversion rates. Bas Wouters, author of "Online Influence," explains Daniel Kahneman's System 1 and System 2 thinking, emphasizing that marketing should trigger System 1, the fast, intuitive brain. He highlights the importance of ability, motivation, and prompts, referencing BJ Fogg's behavior model. Wouters provides examples such as SEAT's website redesign, which increased leads by 2000% by simplifying prompts, and NYX Makeup Studio, which boosted sales by 300% by changing one word to reflect desired behavior. The discussion underscores that optimizing for the mind, rather than solely increasing ad spend or optimizing funnels, is crucial for marketing success.

Outlines

Part 1: Foundations, Behavioral Psychology

Part 2: Behavioral Models, Prompts

Part 3: Conversion Optimization, Mental Effort

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