09 Jan 2026
29m

Ep 138: AI, Space-Based Interceptors & the Bleeding Edge of Warfare with Pentagon R&D Chief Emil Michael

Podcast cover

Joe Lonsdale: American Optimist

The conversation centers on Emil Michael's role as Undersecretary of War for Research and Engineering, focusing on how he's applying Silicon Valley speed to the Pentagon to address critical technology gaps. Michael outlines six critical technology areas—applied AI, contested logistics, biomanufacturing, quantum and battlefield information dominance, scaled hypersonics, and scaled directed energy—driving the Department of War's R&D efforts. He emphasizes the need to catch up with and surpass China's military advancements, particularly in areas like hypersonics and drone defense. Michael highlights the importance of public-private partnerships, citing Google's collaboration on AI as a positive example, and discusses the Office of Strategic Capital's role in providing loans to scale critical technologies and rebuild the defense industrial base. The discussion also covers the need for a stronger American defense posture to deter adversaries and maintain peace through strength.

Outlines

Part 1: Mission, Leadership, and Context

Part 2: Innovation Strategy and Startup Speed

Part 3: Critical Technologies and Battlefield Dominance

Part 4: Strategic Capital and Supply Chain Security

Part 5: Collaboration, Talent, and Future Outlook

Sign in to continue reading, translating and more.

Continue
 
mindmap screenshot
Preview
preview episode cover
How to Get Rich: Every EpisodeNaval