YouTube05 Dec 2025

Why the next 25 years could surpass anything in modern memory | Peter Leyden: Full Interview

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The podcast features Pete Leyden discussing his concept of the "Great Progression," a period of potential progress driven by scaling technologies like AI, clean energy, and bioengineering, set against a backdrop of collapsing old systems. He reflects on his work with Wired Magazine in the 90s, particularly the "Long Boom" article, which envisioned the positive impacts of the internet and globalization. Leyden draws parallels between the current era and historical junctures in American history (1780s, 1865, and 1945), noting patterns of technological booms, economic shifts, and political polarization. He emphasizes the transformative potential of AI to create abundance, the revolutionary nature of clean energy technologies, and the shift from industrial to biological production through bioengineering. Leyden concludes by suggesting that these changes could lead to a reinvention of capitalism, democracy, and global governance, driven by digital technologies and AI, to address current systemic challenges.

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