Immigration Debate w/ Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry and Noah Smith

In this episode of Econ 102, Noah Smith and Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry (PEG) engage in a debate about immigration policy, focusing on illegal immigration and potential solutions. PEG argues for prioritizing the interests of current and future citizens and expresses concern over what he sees as a devaluation of the nation-state concept on the American left. Noah, while agreeing with the need for border control, emphasizes informing the public about the realities of immigration and suggests alternative enforcement methods like employer audits and changes to asylum laws. They discuss the potential benefits and drawbacks of mass deportations, including the impact on crime rates, the economy, and public trust, with PEG emphasizing the need to enforce existing laws and Noah questioning the effectiveness and potential negative consequences of current policies. They also touch on the fiscal costs of supporting illegal immigrants and debate the potential for Trump's immigration policies to build trust in the system.