19 Nov 2025
1h 48m

How AI will change software engineering – with Martin Fowler

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The Pragmatic Engineer (private feed for xtracalley@gmail.com)

In this interview podcast, Martin Fowler, a software engineer and author, discusses the impact of AI on software engineering. He compares the shift to AI with the transition from assembly language to high-level languages, emphasizing the move from deterministic to non-deterministic environments. Fowler shares his journey into software development, his work at Thoughtworks, and the creation of the Thoughtworks Radar. He also touches on the importance of refactoring, the relevance of design patterns, and the challenges and opportunities AI presents for software development workflows, legacy systems, and team collaboration. He also advises junior engineers to seek mentorship and probe AI tools for their reasoning and sources.

Outlines

Part 1: Fowler's Journey, Thoughtworks, AI Introduction

Part 2: LLMs in Software Engineering

Part 3: Software Development Principles

Part 4: Learning, Industry, Advice

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