10 Nov 2025
1h 12m

690: Steve Ruiz and tldraw

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ShopTalk

In this episode of Shop Talk Show, Dave Rupert and Chris Coyier interview Steve Ruiz, the founder of tldraw, about his free whiteboard tool and the commercialized Teal Draw SDK. They discuss the capabilities of tldraw, including its use as a React library for building infinite canvas apps, its collaborative features, and its VS Code extension. Steve shares insights into the architecture, data migration system, and the various applications built on top of tldraw, such as the "Make Real" project, which uses AI to generate working prototypes from wireframes. The conversation also explores the potential of using drawing and visual tools to prompt AI models, the challenges of building a canvas application, and the business model behind tldraw.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction to tldraw

Part 2: tldraw Applications and AI Integration

Part 3: Creative Workflows and Engineering Challenges

Part 4: Monetization and Conclusion

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