YouTube26 Sep 2025
1h 7m

An insider perspective on China and AI, from Biden’s NSA | The Cognitive Revolution

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This podcast episode features an interview with Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor to President Biden, by Nathan Labenz from The Cognitive Revolution podcast. The discussion centers on AI risks and opportunities, particularly concerning coordination and competition between the U.S. and China. Sullivan shares his perspectives on the urgency of AI development, potential national security implications, and the need for government and private sector collaboration. He addresses concerns about job displacement, economic concentration, and the balance between competition and conflict with China, advocating for managed competition and diplomatic engagement. Sullivan also touches on export controls, the role of AI in military applications, and the importance of maintaining American leadership in AI technology while addressing ethical and societal considerations.

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Part 1: AI Introduction and Government Adoption

Part 2: AI Deals and China's Threat

Part 3: Competition and Future Outlook

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