In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Brent Schutte, CIO of Northwestern Mutual, to discuss the current macro landscape and what it means for investors. Brent shares his balanced perspective on the Fed, inflation, tariffs, concentration risk in markets, and why diversification may be more important now than ever. With over 30 years of investing experience, Brent provides valuable lessons from past cycles that help put today’s environment in context.

The Fed’s dual mandate and why both inflation and unemployment risks matter
How tariffs could reshape growth and inflation dynamics
Market concentration and the dominance of the Magnificent Seven
Lessons from past cycles (1999 tech bubble, 2007 commodities, Japan in the 1980s)
The role of diversification, including small/mid caps, international equities, and commodities
Active vs. passive investing and how to evaluate managers
Recession signals, rolling recessions, and hidden economic weakness
Why humility and balance are essential in portfolio construction

00:00 – Introduction & importance of diversification
02:00 – The Fed’s mandate and tariffs’ impact on growth & inflation
07:30 – Reaction to Powell’s Jackson Hole speech & Fed independence
15:20 – Hidden recession, labor market signals & AI’s economic role
20:30 – Reliability of recession indicators post-COVID
26:00 – Tariffs, uncertainty & risks for investors
28:40 – Market concentration and the Magnificent Seven
34:00 – Rethinking diversification: 60/40, commodities, and international exposure
41:20 – Lessons from past market cycles (Japan, dot-com, China, commodities)
45:15 – Passive flows, active management, and evaluating skill vs. luck
50:00 – Government stakes in companies (Intel discussion)
52:00 – Standard closing questions & final lessons

31 Years of Lessons: Northwestern Mutual CIO Brent Schutte on Markets, Cycles, and Diversification

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