The Kind of Pain She Wanted

In this episode of Modern Love, Anna Martin interviews Grace Hussar, a writer, about her journey of self-discovery through pain and BDSM. Grace recounts her lifelong struggle to stay present in the moment and how ultra-running initially helped her turn off her overthinking brain. This eventually led her to explore BDSM, which she found provided a sense of relief and control. Grace details her first experience with rope play, emphasizing the importance of consent, communication, and the surprising sense of empowerment she gained by relinquishing control in a safe and structured environment. She reflects on how these experiences have transformed her relationship with her body, allowing her to view it as a tool rather than an object of self-consciousness, and how it has positively impacted other aspects of her life.