05 Aug 2025
27m

ReThinking: Ed Helms on growing through failure

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In this episode of the "Rethinking" podcast, Adam Grant interviews Ed Helms, known for his roles in "The Office" and "The Hangover," about failure, lessons from "The Office," and historical blunders, drawing from Helms' podcast "SNAFU" and his new book. Helms shares personal experiences with bombing as a stand-up comedian and discusses the importance of community and a strong support system in overcoming setbacks. He also reflects on his time on "The Office," highlighting the value of cherishing mundane moments and the challenges of navigating character development. The conversation explores the concept of groupthink and fear as drivers of historical SNAFUs. Helms also shares a unique strategy for dealing with self-doubt: recording pep talks for himself.

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