The Washington Roundtable’s Evan Osnos interviews Katie Drummond, the global editorial director of Wired, about the publication’s scoop-filled coverage of DOGE, and what Elon Musk’s experience in Washington taught Silicon Valley leaders. “They know that they can operate with relative impunity, and they are now lining themselves up next to a President who will allow that to continue to happen,” Drummond says. Plus, a discussion of how artificial intelligence will shape our society and democracy, and transform the workforce in the years to come.

This week’s reading:

“Trump Redefines the Washington Scandal,” by Susan B. Glasser
“Donald Trump’s Tariff DealmMaker-In-Chief” by Antonia Hitchens
“Are the Democrats Getting Better at the Internet?,” by Jon Allsop

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Wired’s Katie Drummond on What the Tech Titans Learned from DOGE

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