#963 - John Lisle - Investigating The True History Of MKUltra & CIA Mind Control

Chris Williamson interviews John Lisle about his new book, "Project Mind Control: The Tragedy of MKUltra." Lisle discusses the origins of MKUltra, the key figures involved like Sidney Gottlieb, and the various experiments conducted, including drug experiments with LSD, sensory deprivation, and psychic driving. He details the unethical nature of the program, the lack of accountability, and the impact on victims. Lisle also addresses common misconceptions and conspiracy theories surrounding MKUltra, distinguishing fact from fiction and explaining how the program's failures led to a reversion to torture as an interrogation technique. The conversation covers the legal aftermath, the destruction of files, and the broader implications of the CIA's actions during the Cold War.