25 Jun 2025
1h 0m

Francis Fukuyama on War in the Middle East

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The Good Fight

In this episode of "The Good Fight," Yascha Mounk interviews Francis Fukuyama about several pressing global issues, starting with an analysis of the recent conflict in the Middle East involving Israel and Iran, including the potential consequences of Iran's weakened state and the durability of its regime. They then transition to American domestic politics, assessing Trump's presidency five months into his term, discussing his policy impacts, popularity, and potential vulnerabilities. Finally, the conversation shifts to the topic of AI, where Fukuyama expresses his growing concerns about its potential to elude human control, particularly with the rise of agentic AI, and the existential threats it may pose to humanity.

Outlines

Part 1: Middle East Conflict Analysis

Part 2: Trump's Presidency and Policies

Part 3: AI Concerns and Future

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