27 Feb 2025
24m

OpenAI Chief Research Officer Mark Chen: GPT 4.5 is Live and Scaling Isn’t Dead

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Big Technology Podcast

This Big Technology Podcast episode interviews OpenAI's Chief Research Officer, Mark Chen, about the release of GPT-4.5. The discussion centers on the model's development, focusing on the "predictable scaling paradigm" and the complementary roles of unsupervised learning and reasoning in its creation. Chen emphasizes that GPT-4.5 shows continued scaling returns, exceeding GPT-4 in various benchmarks, including user preference for everyday and knowledge work tasks (60-70% higher). He also highlights the model's improved emotional intelligence and creative writing capabilities. The interview concludes by discussing the future of AI model development, emphasizing OpenAI's dual-track approach of pushing the frontier of intelligence with large models while also developing more cost-effective, smaller models for various use cases.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction and Naming

Part 2: Scaling, Performance, and Development

Part 3: Model Strategy and Applications

Part 4: Talent and Future

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