Anja Manuel on AI, China, and national security

This podcast interviews Anja Manuel, an expert in AI and foreign policy, about the US-China AI race and its national security implications. The discussion covers China's advancements in AI, particularly the surprising DeepSeek model, and the necessary steps the US should take to maintain its technological edge, including increased R&D funding and streamlined government processes. Manuel highlights risks like AI-enabled cyberattacks and bioweapons, advocating for international collaboration, particularly with China, on AI safety and regulation, emphasizing the importance of "Track Two" dialogues to build trust and prevent misunderstandings. The interview concludes with Manuel's optimistic vision for a future where US-China cooperation on AI leads to reduced military spending and increased collaboration on global challenges.